alright alright alright. first things first, they wouldn't give me the wiring diagram, at all. apparently they subscribe to a 'very expensive service' to get them so whatever. second of all, the sparky cost $962, including 90 towing and another 85 for the crank angle sensor, so im not too devo about that.

right.

SUP TORQUE. its basically all noise and vibration with open headers and a solid mount, like ALOT of vibration. ashtray shakes itself loose, hatch rattles constantly, heater core vibrates like chocolate on lift off, steering wheel vibrates, mirrors shake like im pumping 15hz through some fat subwoofers and so on. open headers are so god damned loud!

issues so far:
-aforementioned noise and vibration
-accessory belt started squealing on and off last night
-clutch slips quite badly, then it shudders. i think ebay ripped me off.
-no tacho, water temp guage or wipers
-left to right shifter cable misadjusted so 5th is hard to find and reverse doesn't exist at all
-REV LIMITER seems to be set at around 4000 rpm?
-alternator wasn't connected at first, drove about 50km home on battery power, the last 5 was without headlights or indicators, at night. it died at the top of my street. whew!

the biggest issue is the rev limiter. it bounces off the limiter at ~40 in first, ~67 in second, ~110 in third. i don't know why, perhaps as cujo suggested, its the lack of exhaust confusing the poor ecu. but either way its so love annoying! it starts to get into its power band then BRAP-BRAP-BRAP.

anyway, im very happy with the car now. im open to taking you all for laps whenever, although i might wait until the zorst is done before i organise a massive cruise. driven past 5 paddy wagons going the other way, each time their heads snapped around to stare, so each time i have turned off the road and hidden with the engine off for 5 mins

yay! photos/videos to come up soon. its hella filthy at the moment.

you know for $28 u can get a moving permit which will allow you to legally drive the car in the state its in for 2 days
you just say that its getting a heap of work done to it and i need to drive it from the workshop to my place and back etc etc

well, i'd consider it. the problem is, it will be a couple of weeks before i can get the exhaust done, because i want it to be done nicely. looking at getting some gangster kdmstuff.com 4-2-1 headers, which are nice but cost around $500. so on top of that, i want a race cat and bigger flex pipe, plus a test pipe for race days

so chuck labour on top of that and i'm guessing another 800-1000 dollars for the exhaust? it'd be worth it though. i might chuck a carton to my mate who did the mount and ghetto rig up the current system to the stock headers as a short term fix until i get some paper together.

def do that

maybe the revlimit issue will sort itself out with the exhaust on aswell...dont forget ur running with no O2 sensor atm

Rather than paying big bucks for a race cat have a look at a ac delco cat for a v6 commie
Also before doing too much more get it over the pits with the stock exhaust first.

afaik the accent and elantra only had one 02 sensor? at least i couldn't see a second one on my flex back system. but yes im hoping the zorst will sort out the limiter. i don't have the stock exhaust any more

also, i'm getting much the same fuel economy! approximately 240km out of half a tank, with a fair bit of experimental thrashing. can't complain about that. i'll talk to the exhaust shop, if the delco cat is cheaper ill run it, i don't really mind what i run so long as its cheap, legal and unrestrictive.

wash 'n' waxed, vacuumed, degreased and tyre shined the accent last night, and took some snaps. ill chuck those up this arvo when i can use the home computer. its looking mint again!

a couple of bolts on the shifter cable bracket seem to have shaken themselves loose. the front-back shifter action is HELL sloppy, forget about getting second or fourth in a hurry. its so hard to get time to work on this chocolate! fkn high school.

Still waiting for those pics man!!!! Can't wait to see the beast!

for you bozza

but seriously, this is the first time ive been on the home pc for ages. can't use photobucket at school so haven't had a chance. these are a little grainy but you get the idea.





aww yeah

mechanical updates.

-fixed the slipping accessory belt, yay! so much less embarrassing starting up now.
-got the shifter bolted together again. feels WAY better. even without the engine swap, i reccommend anyone to make sure their linkage is bolted together properly. feels like brand spankers, the only problem is the aforementioned left-right misadjustment, reverse still takes a few goes. anyways i can at least find the rest of the gears now.
-picked up some 2.0 HVT badges also at the wreckers as you can see. that pic is from just spraying the chrome badges black, it hasn't stuck well at all. atm some plasti-cote primer is drying, and ill spray em with black plasti-cote in the morning. can't wait to chuck em up in black, it should look sick! too bad they are individual badges and will be stupidly misaligned. hyundai parts centre wanted to charge me $130 for the pair of em! what a rip off!
-the clutch is now bedding in alot, gone from slipping badly (still slips a little now and then) to chattering and severe bunny hopping. this isn't helped by the solid engine mount
-OPEN HEADERS ARE LOUD WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT. should be getting a temporary fix from a welder mate to get my existing 2.5" system hooked up to the stock XD2 headers.

im loving dat torque, chocolate's punchy as hell

Great job there!

HOWEVER I'm surprised you've been driving a seriously loud and easily defect-able car around.... All this effort and you may find yourself having the car towed home because the cops give you a 2 second yellow! If you had a smash, you would be hit with criminal charges dude.

If you have xd2 headers on, how come no o2 sensor? Do they have theirs further down the pipe or something? The LC sensor is right on top! You'll also may be hurting the car without the exhaust done and no o2 sensor, hence the 4k limit. You also have no idea the a/f ratios with HVT and a normal beta ecu with no o2 sensor etc. Get your zorst hooked up and get a dyno check asap!

From that pic you can see there is no o2 sensor where the accent has its o2 sensor.

Well done with the car mate! Nice and clean!

My lantra O2 sensor is after the flex pipe before the cat

lunchietey, if i had a daily driver i would indeed be leaving the accent at home. however, necessity (my chocolate wage) calls for me to be gingerly driving the beta accent around. as for the 02 sensor, the photograph hides the sensor hahaha! its juust underneath the header for no 4 cylinder, where they all merge into one pipe. my main concern is whether the elantra has one or two 02 sensors! but yeah man i suspect the exhaust, or lack thereof, is the culprit for the low rev limit. also man, it is a HVT ecu. all the electronics are from the same car!

my mate took some poly pipe footage yesterday on the way to autosalon, i'll try and get it on the internet somewhere asap

Oh it IS the hvt ecu, I thought you were saying a plug was missing on the loom or something? Might also be causing the limp home mode....

You've been without the car for so long, can't you wait a little more? Could be a HUGE pain if you get pulled, and if it's exhaust-less it's a matter of time, not to mention pod and the fact it's a 2.0!!!

US spec cars have two 02 sensors, I think we only get 1(korean spec) as we are not subjected to the Californian pollution controls requiring pre and post cat o2 sensors

And if it's one or two sensors, you should still have hooked up the one you have a spot for now, substantially better than none! It will run with just headers I would say quite happily as long as the sensors are all working!

True, but the sensor is just underneath

last night the clutch lost all hydraulic pressure when i got in the car to go home from work. it had no leaks, all the lines were dry, but the clutch pedal was very light to the floor then spongy on the way back up. i bled the system today and adjusted it, it fixed the problem. however i am concerned as to WHY i had to bleed the system. it was bled perhaps a month ago and i have been driving the car for less than a week, and now i need to bleed it again. does anyone have any ideas as to why this is?

also my mate shall be rigging up the exhaust on wednesday evening. its not super mad tyte hella dope kdm headers YET, he's just putting in an extra 15cm of 2.5" MS piping so the two flanges line up and bolt up! yay! so at last it'll be dipping under the 100 db level i hope.

also an iphone recorded a 11.5 second 1/8th mile, in the wet. thats pretty slow if i do say so myself, but i think the car still has the balls to dip into a low 15 second quarter mile once all of its issues (AHEM REV LIMITER AHEM CEL AHEM NGM REFLASH AHEM) are sorted out.

also kinda loving the manual steering. chocolate sucks when parking, but when driving around, it delivers way more feedback as to what the tyres are doing. this really has swayed me against putting the elantra power steering pump in.

nice car and great swap bud, but seriously ??

Driving it around without an exhaust??? you can expecta yellow and a whole lot of explaining to do with the motor swap, trust me DO NOT DRIVE IT ON THE STREETS till its sorted.

Or better yet just hand it over now to the cops to make it easier.

Again awsome conversion bud!

RR

its okay guys, the exhaust is getting done this arvo. yay sub 100 decibels!

my mate will be welding up the extra 10cm of 2.5" MS so mate up my existing flex back to the stock headers. i'll take pictures of whats going on. this will hopefully free up some more low end torque and possibly fix the rev limiter problem, somehow.

exhaust was done last night. turns out the flange isn't the same at all, so the dremel and power drill were both busted out. all thats missing now are the two nuts on the header, so there is a degree of leakage, ie noise and a bit of 'turbo whistle' from the front of the car, but nothing ott.

there is so much less noise and so much more power, or so it seems. last night in the wet i got wheelspin through 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th, so you can't really complain with that. idk if it actually makes more power, or its just the same speed with less noise though hahaha!

also need some new rear brake shoes, getting a bit of 404: skid pics not loading atm.

So did the exhaust sort out the 4k rev limit?

nah it didn't. must be the ecu having a tanty coz its not in its fat old cushioned elantra anymore. can anyone tell me how to adjust the shifter cables? its so damned annoying! the shifter is one of the new style plastic based items, it doesn't look like the X3 shifter at all.

small update: the solid engine mount let go. i don't blame it really, with one solid mount, three rubber mounts, bulk bunny hopping and general abuse, it was only a matter of time. atm i'm getting a new mount done up with a nylon insert, its going to be done properly this time. however, i'm STILL having clearance issues! i drove the car around for like 6 hours before i saw the mount had let go, the plate at the base of the mount is actually hard up against the frame, wedging it in place. so, im going to have to play with the hoist and such to try and tilt the engine over. i'm kinda dreading having to pull the whole engine and having to slot mounts and run different axles etc etc

i'll see what i can get popping with this hoist.

whoa chocolate, updates again.

got a new mount made up by a mate. this time it only uses the three bolts right next to the timing belt cover, as the fourth one at the back isn't even structural. it also uses a nylon mount. fitting it involved pushing the engine over with a crowbar, then bolting the mount up. can you say temporary fix? anyways, it has fixed all the vibration issues and more! the car is drivable as ever now.

the throttle cable was loose and had shaken itself loose from its clip. this was the cause of the bunnyhopping and the pedal slapping my foot all day. now its fixed i can drive the car properly! finally all three pedals are working as they should.

just now i've paid for an OBD-2 scanner. its a nice one that can also display all the data from all the sensors too, ie throttle position and more importantly, coolant temp! so that will be a nice temp fix. however, it will also let me know what is causing the low rev limiter! hopefully it will arrive in time for:

WHOOP ARSE WEDNESDAY. 1st of september, quit motorplex is opening up again, so i shall be taking it down for some calibration runs. my aim is 15.00 if everything works as it should. i imagine the biggest problems will be a) traction and b) the rev limiter. if the scanner arrives before the drags, then i wont have to worry about problem b.

anyways, thats that for now. hopefully the hyperWA guys will be able to see the car through non-rose tinted glasses on saturday afternoon! peace out.

When is it going ovr the pits ???

i know it sounds funny...but tried an ecu reset?
or would the ecu chuck a spaz again???


or

on second thoughts, would 4000rpm be the point where the VCT kicks in?

give it a couple of months, i still need to sort all of its issues and that takes alot of cash.



well, its definitely an intermittent problem. like, 50% of the time, the rev limiter is as high as it should be. on the same drive, it will then act up. turning the car off then on again doesn't solve the problem. from that i can guess its an intermittent problem that is logged in the ecu's RAM. HVT is always active, its constant VVT. so resetting the ECU would solve it, but so does turning the car off overnight.

holding out on this scanner to tell me what the deal is.

I have the strangest feeling that the 4k limit is the point that the HVT changes settings or something.
maybe it needs some sensor to provide a reading for it.
Have you tried reading through the TSB's for the HVT Elantra motor?
They might shed some light.

dude im not ruling anything out, there are random disconnected wiring connectors hanging off the loom so anything goes.

but no, i haven't thought of reading the TSBs, i'll admit i even had to google what the acronym meant. neat as! i'm interested in how the HVT actually works, im aware it relies on oil pressure, but other than that its pretty vague. its self contained so im guessing it uses solenoids etc to control valves regulating the position of the cam? like i said, i don't really know much about it because the information simply isn't there. maybe these will help.

also my scanner is currently being 'packaged', im really hoping and doubting it will get here before wednesday. i can smell that 15!

it may sound like a stupid thing... but if your having these drama's... loose the HVT and get a microtech, ems, ect a full standalone and then you wont have any more drams. you can get them for $500 off ebay second hand and you can black box tune it yourself and just get a dyno bloke to finalise the tune.... my 2cents...

Saying that there are some standalone ecu's that can HVT compatiable so you might be in luck,

If you want a bit more info let me know,

Cheers Ryan

From my understanding you can't use a aftermarket standalone as they have to be closed loop to pass the required vehicle examination if you want to do it legally.